Monday, June 18, 2012

Attributes and Ibn Al-Jawzi


   According to Ibn Al-Jawzi (597 Hiji death, Rahimahu Allah) he wrote this book in defense of the true Madhab of Imam Ahmad, in which case he mentions three earlier than him Hanbali scholars in the beginning of the work, including.

Abu Abd-Allah bin Haamid, died in 403 Hijri.

Al-Qaadhi Abi Ya'la bin Al-Fara'a, died 458 Hijri.

Abu Al-Hasan 'Ali bin Nasir Az-Zaaghooni, died 427 Hijri.

   Even though I don't agree with all of Ibn Jawzis accusations against the companions of the Hanbali Madhab, still one should mention that even alongside with any individual scholars slight deviation, misinterpretation, or mistake, this doesn't diminish their stature in Madhab from the angle of Fiqh or Usool al-Fiqh.

   I can't count the numerous times that when debating the validity of the Hanbali methodology of believing in the names and attributes of Allah according to the greats of the Madhab, like Muwaafiq-u-deen Ibn Qudaama (Died 620 Hijri), Ibn Rajab (Died 790 Hijri), Ibn Taymiyyah (Died 728 Hijri), As-Safaareeni (Died 1188 Hijri), etc, that people have asked me…. Well brother, have you read “Dafu’ Shubhatu At-Tashbeeh by Imam ibn Jawzi? Up until not too long ago I haven’t, but what I did know for sure was that he was always considered a controversial figure when it came to the belief in Names and Attributes of Allah, often times swaying back and forth between the actual creed of Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal, and at other times going towards Ta’weel[1].

   Finally I came across the book at the book fair, bought it, and finally had time to browse through it. I won’t post everything from it because I don’t have time to translate all of it.[2] However, most of his arguments have been dealt with by the Salaf of the Ummah, and also earlier and later scholars of the Hanbali and or Athari Method of Aqeedah[3]. In fact the sole purpose of this post is to say one thing and one thing only, Ibn Jawzi clearly propagated Ta’weel of the attributes or At least NOT Tafweedh, which if one is truthful would realize that this is the furthest thing from the Madhab of the Salaf, Imam Ahmad, and subsequently the Hanaabilah who followed them.

So here is one quote from the book, translation and a brief explanation.

 

“So when they (Some of the previous Hanaabilah) confirm that a particular attribute is indeed an Attribute of Allah, they say, “We will not carry it upon the meaning that it is directed to from the point of the Arabic Language”, for example; يد(Hand) upon (the meaning of) blessing (نعمة) or ability (قدرة), nor مجيئ (Coming) and إتيان(Arriving) upon the meaning of Goodness(بر) or kindness (لطف), Neither Shin (ساق) upon the meaning of Intensity (شدة), rather they say summarize there meanings as being the apparent known meaning,(However) that apparent meaning is well-known to be (the same as) the attributes of Mankind, and either you take them upon their real non metaphorical meaning (حقيقي) if it’s possible, and if something changes (that possibility) you carry it upon it’s metaphorical meaning(مجاز), then they refrain (from admitting) that they are committing likening (تشبيه) Allah to his creation, and they deny this term being associated with them, saying; “We are Ahl-As-Sunnah”, (however) their speech is clear that they are likening Allah to his creation.”
It’s clear here that Ibn Al-Jawzi Intends for the Hanaabilah to do Ta’weel, or what he considers for them to follow the logical meaning of these attributes after removing the possibility that they be the first apparent (ظاهر) meaning. However, this was definitely not the Method of Imam Ahmad, nor was it the Method of the much more grounded people in the Athari creed in the Hanbali Madhab, such as those mentioned above. And this is my biggest problem, in that people will continuously argue about  the Salaf, Imam Ahmad, and Ibn Qudaama being Mufawidheen, yet at the same time promote books that  say that the true method of them is actually Ta'weel. We should be able to agree on this one basic fact, and then we can move on. Secondly, what he accuses the Hanaabilah here is not something that they created themselves, in fact this was the way of the Salaf of the Ummah, including At-Tabari in his Tafseer.

Imam At-Tabari (May Allah (تعالي) have mercy on him) in his explanation of the Qur’an mentions the following concerning Allah (تعالي)’s hand in this verse.



“The Jews say: "Allah (تعالي)'s Hand is tied up (i.e. He does not give and spend of His Bounty)." Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for what they uttered. Nay, both His Hands are widely outstretched. He spends (of His Bounty) as He wills. Verily, the Revelation that has come to you from Allah (تعالي) increases in most of them their obstinate rebellion and disbelief. We have put enmity and hatred amongst them till the Day of Resurrection. Every time they kindled the fire of war, Allah (تعالي) extinguished it; and they (ever) strive to make mischief on earth. And Allah (تعالي) does not like the Mufsidun (mischief-makers).”-Al-Maa’ida[4]
So he said:

“Some of the scholars said: Rather, the hand of Allah (تعالي) (yadd) is an attribute from amongst his attributes and it is a yadd (hand), not like the extremities of the children of Adam. They say- that is because Allah (تعالي) mentioned to us concerning the specifying Adam by that which was specific in His creation by Allah (تعالي)s hands.
And it is said, that if this is something especially for Adam then for that the aspect (of how he was created being different) is understood. Since all of Allah (تعالي)’s creation were created by Allah (تعالي)’s will and power and for them He is the King, and since Allah (تعالي) mentioned to us that he specified for Adam that he was created specifically by His hand, without anyone else having this type of special creation by Allah (تعالي), then it is understood that when he specified Him with that specialty it was with a meaning that differed with the rest of the creation. And if that is what that is, then it rejects the saying that hand is power or will…”
Then He says,

“And the correct statement is the statement that says, that yadd (hand) for Allah (تعالي) is an attribute, and that is what is apparent from the sayings of the Prophet of Allah ('Alayi Salaatu Wa Salaam), and this is the saying of the scholars and people of explanation.”

For this Ayah, Ibn Al-Jawzi again relied upon Ta'weel which is not the method of the Athari Aqeedah, Imam Ahmad, nor the Hanaabilah, in which case in his book on page 14 here said.



"And Allahs Statement "Nay, both His Hands are widely outstretched." meaning, his blessing and Ability. And Allahs statement "that which I created with My hands?", Meaning with my ability and blessing, and Al-Hasan says. "Allahs hand is above their hands" meaning his goodness, and this is the speech of the scholars."
So obviously this is different than the opinion of At-Tabari, the scholar of Tafseer, an Athari in Creed, so clearly one can see that what Ibn Al-Jawzi propagated was Ta'weel, not the true Madhab of Imam Ahmad.

As for Ibn Al-Jawzis accusation that they deny Tashbeeh, while in fact they are still likening Allah to the creation. Then this accusation is baseless, because if that’s the case then so was Imam Ahmad doing Tashbeeh by his statements that Allah is above the throne, or that Allah speaks with sound and letters, or any other confirmation of an Attribute for Allah, while still inwardly and outwardly believing.

“There is nothing unto like Him (Allah), and He is The Hearing, and The Seeing.” 42:11

May Allah Have mercy upon them All.






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[1] Selecting a secondary, or impossible meaning to apply to the meaning of the attributes.


[2] The book itself was translated into English.


[3] Which is the Aqeedah of the Salaf.


[4] http://altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=1&tTafsirNo=1&tSoraNo=5&tAyahNo=64&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=1





11 comments:

  1. Are you referring to this book of Ibn Jawzi?

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Attributes-God-Al-Tashbih-Al-Tanzih/dp/0955235901

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  2. Your analysis is very shallow with so much of deciption . Imam Ibn aljawzi was refering to the companion , Tabeien and Tabei Tabeien , why you do not use the same method. Can you differentiate between your sect and both Mujasemah and Mushabeha as been detailed by alsharestani in "Melal and Nehal". Can you ?

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  3. And the sky We built with hands; verily We outspread [it]" (Qur'an 51:47),

    al-Tabari ascribes the figurative explanation (ta’wil) of with hands as meaning "with power (bi quwwa)" through five chains of transmission to Ibn ‘Abbas, who died 68 years after the Hijra, Mujahid who died 104 years after the Hijra, Qatada [ibn Da‘ama] who died 118 years after the Hijra, Mansur [ibn Zadhan al-Thaqafi] who died 131 years after the Hijra, and Sufyan al-Thawri who died 161 years after the Hijra (Jami‘ al-bayan, 27.7–8). I mention these dates to show just how early they were.

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    1. And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander.

      1) The word in the verse is “Ayyd” which depending on the spelling can either literally mean power or hands because it is from the same root word, so again this is NOT Ta’weel because the word itself means power. That’s why in the previous verse where the Jews said Allahs Hands are tied, Imam At-Tabari confirmed that Hands are an Attribute of Allah and can’t be considered power, or ability.

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  4. "On a day when shin shall be exposed, they shall be ordered to prostrate, but be unable" (Qur'an 68:42),

    al-Tabari says, "A number of the exegetes of the Companions (Sahaba) and their students (tabi‘in) held that it [a day when shin shall be exposed] means that a dire matter (amrun shadid) shall be disclosed" (Jami‘ al-bayan, 29.38)—the shin’s association with direness being that it was customary for Arab warriors fighting in the desert to ready themselves to move fast and hard through the sand in the thick of the fight by lifting the hems of their garments above the shin. This was apparently lost upon later anthropomorphists, who said the verse proved ‘Allah has a shin,’ or, according to others, ‘two shins, since one would be unbecoming.’ Al-Tabari also relates from Muhammad ibn ‘Ubayd al-Muharibi, who relates from Ibn al-Mubarak, from Usama ibn Zayd, from ‘Ikrima, from Ibn ‘Abbas that shin in the above verse means "a day of war and direness (harbin wa shidda)" (ibid., 29.38). All of these narrators are those of the sahih or rigorously authenticated collections except Usama ibn Zayd, whose hadiths are hasan or ‘well authenticated.’

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    1. The confirmation of shin for Allah as an Attribute does not come from this verse, because this verse does not have proof in it to make from his attributes, rather the verses apparent meaning is that it is talking about a dire matter (The last day) being revealed, and this is the linguistic meaning that doesn't need any Ta’weel to be understood by the Arabs of that time.

      Rather Shin as an Attribute of Allah is taken from a hadith in Saheeh Muslim Where the Prophet (Alayhi Salaatu wa Salaam) said:

      يكشف ربنا عن ساقه ، فيسجد له كل مؤمن ومؤمنة ، ويبقى من كان يسجد في الدنيا رياء وسمعة ، فيذهب ليسجد فيعود ظهره طبقا واحدا

      (Our Lord will reveal His Shin, and every believing male and female will prostrate to Him. The only people who will remain standing are those who prostrated in the worldly life only to be seen and heard (showing off). This type of person will try to prostrate at that time, but his back will made to be one stiff plate (the bone will not bend or flex).

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  5. Coming. The hadith master (hafiz) Ibn Kathir reports that Imam al-Bayhaqi related from al-Hakim from Abu ‘Amr ibn al-Sammak, from Hanbal, the son of the brother of Ahmad ibn Hanbal’s father, that

    Ahmad ibn Hanbal figuratively interpreted the word of Allah Most High,

    "And your Lord shall come . . ." (Qur'an 89:22),

    as meaning "His recompense (thawab) shall come."

    Al-Bayhaqi said, "This chain of narrators has absolutely nothing wrong in it" (al-Bidaya wa al-nihaya,10.342). In other words, Ahmad ibn Hanbal, like the Companions (Sahaba) and other early Muslims mentioned above, sometimes also gave figurative interpretations (ta’wil) to scriptural expressions that might otherwise have been misinterpreted anthropomorphically. This was also the way of Abul Hasan al-Ash‘ari, founder of the Ash‘ari school of Islamic belief, who had two views about the mutashabihat, the first being tafwid, or ‘consigning the knowledge of what is meant to Allah,’ and the second being ta’wil or ‘figurative interpretation’ when needed to avoid the suggestion of the anthropomorphism that is explicitly rejected by the Qur'an.

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    2. This is what Ibn Rajab Said in his explanation of Saheeh Al-Bukhaari,

      It has been reported that Imam Ahmad said concerning Allahs coming, that it meant his order, however in this Hanbal (Ibn Hanbal Bin Ishaq Born before 200 H.-272 ) was alone as the only one with this narration, and from our companions (The Hanaabilah) are those that said, Hanbal is deluded in that which he transmitted, and he is against the famous madhab (of Imam Ahmad) that has many chains of narrators.(The one without Ta'weel).

      And Abu Bakr Al-Khilal[1] (Born 234-331) and his companion (May be talking about Abd Al-Aziz bin Ja’far bin Ma’roof, known as ‘Ghulaam Al-Khilal” born 285-363), Didn’t confirm that which Hanbal was alone in narrating in the narration he mentioned regarding Imam Ahmad.

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